12.04.370 Stop or stopping.
"Stop" or "stopping," when prohibited, means any halting, even momentarily, of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, except when necessary to avoid conflict with other traffic or in compliance with the directions of a police officer or traffic-control sign or signal.
(Prior code § 27-1-1 (part))
Do you know he wasn't avoiding conflict with other traffic?
12.04.220 Park or parking.
"Park" or "parking" means the standing of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, otherwise than temporarily for the purpose of and while actually engaged in loading or unloading property or passengers.
(Prior code § 27-1-1 (part))
I don't see a No Parking sign there. Do you know he was not loading or unloading property or passengers?
12.04.355 Stand or standing.
"Stand" or "standing" means the halting of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, otherwise than temporarily for the purpose of and while actually engaged in receiving and/or discharging passengers.
(Prior code § 27-1-1 (part))
I don't see a No Standing sigh there. Do you know that he wasn't loading or unloading passengers or property?
Daddy Yo, have outdated information. Here is the current law. Note that signs are not required, only that it is designated a bike lane.
Section 12.40.040 of the Metropolitan Code subsection E:
Notwithstanding the general signage requirements of section 12.40.020 of this chapter to the contrary, no person shall stop, stand or park a motor vehicle within any bicycle lane unless the metropolitan traffic and parking commission has determined that parking within the bicycle lane in specific locations is appropriate during certain hours and signs have been erected in the designated area(s) to that effect. The owner of any motor vehicle found in violation of this subsection shall be subject to a fine in the amount of fifty dollars, which shall be assessed by the issuance of a parking citation.”
Rider 7 - you are right. I forgot about that revision to the law that had to be enacted because the bike lanes in front of businesses were causing those businesses to lose money.
How do you get that signs are not required when the law says, "unless the metropolitan traffic and parking commission has determined that parking within the bicycle lane in specific locations is appropriate during certain hours and signs have been erected in the designated area(s) to that effect."
The issue that brought this revison was the minority owned chicken place that had customers parking in the bike lane and blocked the rich gentry from escorting their children to school.
I'll looked up the ordinance and post it here.
Derailleur - If you don't like riding your bike on the road then stay off the road.
Did the bicycle special rights law revison also revise the definition of "stop,park and stand"?
If not, then the people driving these cars that you picture had the right to stop, park and stand as long as they were loading or unloading property or passengers.
Are you saying a Taxi can't pull over into a bike lane to pick up a passenger. Can a UPS truck not park in a bike lane to deliver a package?
You folks need to think about the law in terms of fairness to all roadway users rather than as your entitlements as saviors of the planet.
"Notwithstanding the general signage requirements of section 12.40.020 of this chapter to the contrary" means no "No Parking" signs are NOT required in bike lanes. It puts bike lanes in the same category as fire hydrants and crosswalks. You can't block them, signs or no signs.
Also the revision did not come about BECAUSE of the chicken place, on the contrary the chicken place was the first BENEFICIARY of the new revision AFTER it passed. A handful of community members got together and said there is a loophole in the old bike lane law: with the old law, police can't enforce the bike lanes rule unless there are "No Parking" signs posted. Nobody wants NO PARKING signs all over the city, so in revising the law they eliminated the loophole so that parking in the bike lanes can be enforced without NO PARKING signs. They also wanted to be able to provide a way that businesses could request an exception during certain hours or whatever, so they added this:
"unless the metropolitan traffic and parking commission has determined that parking within the bicycle lane in specific locations is appropriate during certain hours and signs have been erected in the designated area(s) to that effect."
That means that a business can go through certain steps to have street parking and the Commission will decide if its safe etc. and if they approve it, they put up signs that say "Bike Lane - No Parking EXCEPT 5PM-12PM" A compromise designed to help everyone out. A month later the chicken place came along and got an exception.
So the REVISED law was decided on by many people working together to make sure a proper compromise was reached. It was passed unanimously by the Traffic and Parking Commission and I think also by City Council, and the Police are enforcing it. I am sorry you don't like it, but all parties compromised to make it fair to as many people as possible.
Remember too that advocates for the handicapped also want the bike lanes protected so that people in motorized scooters and wheelchairs can use them, and some of the bike lanes were built with Federal money that is mandates that bike lanes are for bikes and no parking is allowed.
Technically, I don't think delivery trucks are permitted to use bike lanes as defined in your "stopping, parking, and standing" posts above since that is specifically addressed by this law, although I don't think if I saw a car sitting in the bike lane with his trunk open and his flashers on that many people who object too much.
So can we respect each other and the law and get along?
Thanks for the update on the code. I couldn’t find the ordinance on the Metro Council web site.
You can block the bike lanes. I don’t see anything in the new bike lane law that says you can’t stop, park or stand in a bike lane. I’m sure most automobile drivers don’t care if elitist bike riders would “object” to anything.
Bike riders get all types of special treatment under the law and yet they just seem to continue to whine about something.
You can stop in a bike lane in order to avoid conflict with other traffic. You can park and stand to load and unload passengers or property (you do not have to indicate that you loading or unloading passenger or property). Try taking these pictures to the DA and see if you can get him issue a warrant to the owner’s of these vehicles.
The revision to the code does not validate any of the photographs that you have posted on your vigilante site. In fact, if I owned any of these cars and saw my car posted here suggesting that I was violating the law I would bring libel charges against you and this web site.
The revisions to the law were not “decided on by many people working together to make sure a proper compromise was reached.” They were decided upon by bicycle special interest groups and individuals. If the BPAC, Walk/Bike Nashville and the bike clubs were really interested in what the general public thinks they would have some facility for the public to express their opinion online.
They don’t. In fact, most bike organizations do their best to make sure the general public is excluded from any bike law decisions.
I will remember this site and post photographs of bike riders I see running red lights and stop signs and passing on the right in a single lane.
Any disrespect I have for cyclist comes from their elitist “we are above the law because we are saving the planet and fighting obesity” attitudes. When those attitudes change I may have some respect for them.
To think that someone disagreeing with you is not “getting along” is typical of bike riders.
Hey, I found the ordinance. I looks like there is a contradiction here.
Section 1, subsection E was added with the requirement "shall". Section 2, subsection B was substituted with the suggestion "should".
The code says - "Shall" and "May." The word "shall" is mandatory, the word "may" is permissive. "Should" is not defined but it does not means "shall" and is not mandatory
If someone tells me I "shall" do something I think that means I have to do something. If someone tells me I "should" do something I think that means they prefer that I do but I don't have to if I don't want to.
This ordinance starts off with a contradiction by saying that it intends to "prohibit the parking of motor vehicles within bicycle lanes." Parking is still allowed in bike lanes to load or unlaod passengers or property.
Also, you mentioned HC scooters in the bike lanes. In 1998 members of Walk/Bike Nashville on the BPTCAC attempted to revise the code to exclude anyone except bikes from the bike lane. I made sure that didn't happen.
Here is the ordinance. With all of the contradictions this law is unenforceable. This is what happens when you only have the special interests making laws that regulate the memebrs of that special interest group. They are all so smugly self assured of themselves them don't look closely enough at the law to make if make sense.
ORDINANCE NO. BL2008-307
An ordinance amending Chapters 12.40 and 12.60 of the Metropolitan Code to prohibit the parking of motor vehicles within bicycle lanes.
Section 1. That Section 12.40.040 of the Metropolitan Code is hereby amended by adding the following new subsection E:
“E. Notwithstanding the general signage requirements of section 12.40.020 of this chapter to the contrary, no person shall stop, stand or park a motor vehicle within any bicycle lane unless the metropolitan traffic and parking commission has determined that parking within the bicycle lane in specific locations is appropriate during certain hours and signs have been erected in the designated area(s) to that effect. The owner of any motor vehicle found in violation of this subsection shall be subject to a fine in the amount of fifty dollars, which shall be assessed by the issuance of a parking citation.”
Section 2. That Section 12.60.135 of the Metropolitan Code is hereby amended by deleting subsection B. in its entirety and substituting in lieu thereof the following new subsection B.:
“B. Motor vehicles should not be parked, stopped or left standing in bicycle lanes unless the metropolitan traffic and parking commission has determined that parking within the bicycle lane in specific locations is appropriate during certain hours and signs have been erected in the designated area(s) to that effect.”
Section 3. This Ordinance shall take effect from and after its enactment, the welfare of The Metropolitan Government of Nashville and Davidson County requiring it.
Sponsored by: Erik Cole, Mike Jameson, Erica Gilmore, Megan Barry, Vivian Wilhoite, Robert Duvall, Duane Dominy
"Any disrespect I have for cyclist comes from their elitist “we are above the law because we are saving the planet and fighting obesity” attitudes."
So that is the reason for all your diatribe? Are you lumping all bikers in that generalization? The kids? The older folks? The group of kids that rides to school with a volunteer parent? The guy with his daughters in the trailer? That is quite a leap.
I will never defend a biker who thinks he is above the law, but it seems you are advocating breaking it yourself. If you want to start a web site with pics of bikers who violate the law, I think that's a great idea. I think we should put cars on it too. (Its far more dangerous when they pass on the right.) It shouldn't be bikers vs cars, it should be abiders vs violators, don't you think?
No, I am not lumping you all together. I mean only those people I am referrng to whose attitudes reflect those atributes I described.
Must liberals always pull the "prejudise" card when they lose an arguement? You know it doesn't work in every situation - like this one for instance.
Where do I advocate breaking the law. All I have done is quote the law. I think everyone should follow the law. Nobody gets a pass just because they think they are saving the planet.
I don't need to start a web site. I'll just use this one.
So far no one here has posted any pictures of cars violating the law.
When do cars pass bikes on the right in a single lane like bike do with cars so often?
You did lump us all together, first as a biker who is "elitist", and now I am a liberal because I defend the bike lanes!? In your world Republicans don't ride bikes? LOL! They do in mine. Next you will be generalizing skateboarders? They use the bike lane all the time too. Are they all liberal arrogant clueless tree huggers trying to save the planet too?
People parked in the bike lane like the pictures on this site get tickets all the time. The police even disciplined one of their own who parked a squad car in a bike lane. I will believe the opinions of Metro Legal, Councilmen, lawyers, judges and police over you, sorry. Take your logic before the judge if you want. Only he can decide if you 'won' the argument.
Again, when I refer to liberals, elitist, global warming alarmist, skateboarders, tree huggers or whatever I am referring to those people in those groups that I talking about and not those people in those groups that I am not talking about.-----------------------
It is logical for me to assume you are a liberal because you are exploiting the parking in the bike lane “crisis” to gain more power for bike riders and the prejudice “crisis” to gain more power by exploiting those you allege I am prejudiced against.------------------------
Here, I’ll say “those (fill in the blank of the people I am referring to) and only those (fill in the blank of the people I am referring to) that have the attributes of (fill in the blank of the attributes we are discussing).” There now you know who I am talking about when I refer to a group we are discussing and we won’t have to waste our discussing if I am racist or prejudiced. Happy?------------------------
I think if you took a poll you would see that most bike riders are liberals. I have had 12 years experience with bike advocates in Nashville and I can confirm that most are self described liberal. I don’t know any skateboarders who use bikes lanes. I do know that, had I not objected, the law regulating bike lanes would be for the exclusive use of bikes. And yes, I know a lot of skateboarders and most of them are liberals.--------------------
You can’t say for a fact that “people” like the people pictured get tickets for parking in the bike lane. You can’t say that the people in these pictures weren’t loading or unloading passengers or property. If I found out my car was pictured on your web site I would sue you for libel. If you took your picture to the DA and he issued a warrant I would say prove that I was not loading or unloading people or property.--------------------------
I hope the next time you have to call the police to help you they have to take a long time to find a parking space rather than block a bike lane that very few people use.------------------------------
Perhaps the BPAC needs to make an exception to the code to allow police to park in the bike lanes while in the performance of their duties. I can’t believe there isn’t a clause like than already. I’ll check and if it is not there I’ll suggest it to Toks.-----------------------
I suppose that the BPAC would oppose that exception for the police just like they tried to remove the clause allowing police on bikes from riding on sidewalks in the performance of their duties. I made sure that revision didn’t make it into the law either.---------------------
Why do bike riders on the BPAC who hate the police and only those riders on the BPAC who hate the police, hate the police?--------------
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Posted on Tue, May 12 2009 at 11:15 AM
I just saw this same Porsche run through a red light at 24th Ave. and Acklen. I believe that intersection is still inside a school zone even.
Posted on Tue, May 12 2009 at 12:53 PM
Can I post pictures of bike riders running red lights here?
Posted on Tue, May 12 2009 at 01:03 PM
He was stopped -
12.04.370 Stop or stopping.
"Stop" or "stopping," when prohibited, means any halting, even momentarily, of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, except when necessary to avoid conflict with other traffic or in compliance with the directions of a police officer or traffic-control sign or signal.
(Prior code § 27-1-1 (part))
Do you know he wasn't avoiding conflict with other traffic?
Posted on Tue, May 12 2009 at 01:05 PM
He was parked -
12.04.220 Park or parking.
"Park" or "parking" means the standing of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, otherwise than temporarily for the purpose of and while actually engaged in loading or unloading property or passengers.
(Prior code § 27-1-1 (part))
I don't see a No Parking sign there. Do you know he was not loading or unloading property or passengers?
Posted on Tue, May 12 2009 at 01:07 PM
He was standing -
12.04.355 Stand or standing.
"Stand" or "standing" means the halting of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, otherwise than temporarily for the purpose of and while actually engaged in receiving and/or discharging passengers.
(Prior code § 27-1-1 (part))
I don't see a No Standing sigh there. Do you know that he wasn't loading or unloading passengers or property?
Posted on Tue, May 12 2009 at 01:13 PM
The law says "should not". That is a suggestion not subject to a fine.
12.60.135 Bicycle lanes.
B. Motor vehicles should not be parked, stopped or left standing in bicycle lanes unless such activity is otherwise permitted.
Every other section of the code addressing parking says "shall not".
So cars "shouldn't" park in a bike lane. The code doesn't say they "shall not".
Your little tattletale site is meaningless.
Posted on Tue, May 12 2009 at 01:27 PM
Sounds like DaddyYo needs to try bicycling around these cars into oncoming aggressive Nashvillian traffic?
Posted on Wed, May 13 2009 at 10:13 AM
Daddy Yo, have outdated information. Here is the current law. Note that signs are not required, only that it is designated a bike lane.
Section 12.40.040 of the Metropolitan Code subsection E:
Notwithstanding the general signage requirements of section 12.40.020 of this chapter to the contrary, no person shall stop, stand or park a motor vehicle within any bicycle lane unless the metropolitan traffic and parking commission has determined that parking within the bicycle lane in specific locations is appropriate during certain hours and signs have been erected in the designated area(s) to that effect. The owner of any motor vehicle found in violation of this subsection shall be subject to a fine in the amount of fifty dollars, which shall be assessed by the issuance of a parking citation.”
Posted on Fri, May 15 2009 at 10:42 AM
Rider 7 - you are right. I forgot about that revision to the law that had to be enacted because the bike lanes in front of businesses were causing those businesses to lose money.
How do you get that signs are not required when the law says, "unless the metropolitan traffic and parking commission has determined that parking within the bicycle lane in specific locations is appropriate during certain hours and signs have been erected in the designated area(s) to that effect."
The issue that brought this revison was the minority owned chicken place that had customers parking in the bike lane and blocked the rich gentry from escorting their children to school.
I'll looked up the ordinance and post it here.
Derailleur - If you don't like riding your bike on the road then stay off the road.
Posted on Fri, May 15 2009 at 10:49 AM
Did the bicycle special rights law revison also revise the definition of "stop,park and stand"?
If not, then the people driving these cars that you picture had the right to stop, park and stand as long as they were loading or unloading property or passengers.
Are you saying a Taxi can't pull over into a bike lane to pick up a passenger. Can a UPS truck not park in a bike lane to deliver a package?
You folks need to think about the law in terms of fairness to all roadway users rather than as your entitlements as saviors of the planet.
Posted on Wed, May 20 2009 at 10:31 AM
"Notwithstanding the general signage requirements of section 12.40.020 of this chapter to the contrary" means no "No Parking" signs are NOT required in bike lanes. It puts bike lanes in the same category as fire hydrants and crosswalks. You can't block them, signs or no signs.
Also the revision did not come about BECAUSE of the chicken place, on the contrary the chicken place was the first BENEFICIARY of the new revision AFTER it passed. A handful of community members got together and said there is a loophole in the old bike lane law: with the old law, police can't enforce the bike lanes rule unless there are "No Parking" signs posted. Nobody wants NO PARKING signs all over the city, so in revising the law they eliminated the loophole so that parking in the bike lanes can be enforced without NO PARKING signs. They also wanted to be able to provide a way that businesses could request an exception during certain hours or whatever, so they added this:
"unless the metropolitan traffic and parking commission has determined that parking within the bicycle lane in specific locations is appropriate during certain hours and signs have been erected in the designated area(s) to that effect."
That means that a business can go through certain steps to have street parking and the Commission will decide if its safe etc. and if they approve it, they put up signs that say "Bike Lane - No Parking EXCEPT 5PM-12PM" A compromise designed to help everyone out. A month later the chicken place came along and got an exception.
So the REVISED law was decided on by many people working together to make sure a proper compromise was reached. It was passed unanimously by the Traffic and Parking Commission and I think also by City Council, and the Police are enforcing it. I am sorry you don't like it, but all parties compromised to make it fair to as many people as possible.
Remember too that advocates for the handicapped also want the bike lanes protected so that people in motorized scooters and wheelchairs can use them, and some of the bike lanes were built with Federal money that is mandates that bike lanes are for bikes and no parking is allowed.
Technically, I don't think delivery trucks are permitted to use bike lanes as defined in your "stopping, parking, and standing" posts above since that is specifically addressed by this law, although I don't think if I saw a car sitting in the bike lane with his trunk open and his flashers on that many people who object too much.
So can we respect each other and the law and get along?
Posted on Fri, May 22 2009 at 02:09 PM
Thanks for the update on the code. I couldn’t find the ordinance on the Metro Council web site.
You can block the bike lanes. I don’t see anything in the new bike lane law that says you can’t stop, park or stand in a bike lane. I’m sure most automobile drivers don’t care if elitist bike riders would “object” to anything.
Bike riders get all types of special treatment under the law and yet they just seem to continue to whine about something.
You can stop in a bike lane in order to avoid conflict with other traffic. You can park and stand to load and unload passengers or property (you do not have to indicate that you loading or unloading passenger or property). Try taking these pictures to the DA and see if you can get him issue a warrant to the owner’s of these vehicles.
The revision to the code does not validate any of the photographs that you have posted on your vigilante site. In fact, if I owned any of these cars and saw my car posted here suggesting that I was violating the law I would bring libel charges against you and this web site.
The revisions to the law were not “decided on by many people working together to make sure a proper compromise was reached.” They were decided upon by bicycle special interest groups and individuals. If the BPAC, Walk/Bike Nashville and the bike clubs were really interested in what the general public thinks they would have some facility for the public to express their opinion online.
They don’t. In fact, most bike organizations do their best to make sure the general public is excluded from any bike law decisions.
I will remember this site and post photographs of bike riders I see running red lights and stop signs and passing on the right in a single lane.
Any disrespect I have for cyclist comes from their elitist “we are above the law because we are saving the planet and fighting obesity” attitudes. When those attitudes change I may have some respect for them.
To think that someone disagreeing with you is not “getting along” is typical of bike riders.
Posted on Fri, May 22 2009 at 02:41 PM
Hey, I found the ordinance. I looks like there is a contradiction here.
Section 1, subsection E was added with the requirement "shall". Section 2, subsection B was substituted with the suggestion "should".
The code says - "Shall" and "May." The word "shall" is mandatory, the word "may" is permissive. "Should" is not defined but it does not means "shall" and is not mandatory
If someone tells me I "shall" do something I think that means I have to do something. If someone tells me I "should" do something I think that means they prefer that I do but I don't have to if I don't want to.
This ordinance starts off with a contradiction by saying that it intends to "prohibit the parking of motor vehicles within bicycle lanes." Parking is still allowed in bike lanes to load or unlaod passengers or property.
Also, you mentioned HC scooters in the bike lanes. In 1998 members of Walk/Bike Nashville on the BPTCAC attempted to revise the code to exclude anyone except bikes from the bike lane. I made sure that didn't happen.
Here is the ordinance. With all of the contradictions this law is unenforceable. This is what happens when you only have the special interests making laws that regulate the memebrs of that special interest group. They are all so smugly self assured of themselves them don't look closely enough at the law to make if make sense.
ORDINANCE NO. BL2008-307
An ordinance amending Chapters 12.40 and 12.60 of the Metropolitan Code to prohibit the parking of motor vehicles within bicycle lanes.
Section 1. That Section 12.40.040 of the Metropolitan Code is hereby amended by adding the following new subsection E:
“E. Notwithstanding the general signage requirements of section 12.40.020 of this chapter to the contrary, no person shall stop, stand or park a motor vehicle within any bicycle lane unless the metropolitan traffic and parking commission has determined that parking within the bicycle lane in specific locations is appropriate during certain hours and signs have been erected in the designated area(s) to that effect. The owner of any motor vehicle found in violation of this subsection shall be subject to a fine in the amount of fifty dollars, which shall be assessed by the issuance of a parking citation.”
Section 2. That Section 12.60.135 of the Metropolitan Code is hereby amended by deleting subsection B. in its entirety and substituting in lieu thereof the following new subsection B.:
“B. Motor vehicles should not be parked, stopped or left standing in bicycle lanes unless the metropolitan traffic and parking commission has determined that parking within the bicycle lane in specific locations is appropriate during certain hours and signs have been erected in the designated area(s) to that effect.”
Section 3. This Ordinance shall take effect from and after its enactment, the welfare of The Metropolitan Government of Nashville and Davidson County requiring it.
Sponsored by: Erik Cole, Mike Jameson, Erica Gilmore, Megan Barry, Vivian Wilhoite, Robert Duvall, Duane Dominy
Posted on Fri, May 22 2009 at 03:29 PM
Also, in B. "should" is not being used as the past tense of "shall' or it would read "should not have....". "Should" is being used as "ought".
Posted on Tue, May 26 2009 at 06:27 PM
"Any disrespect I have for cyclist comes from their elitist “we are above the law because we are saving the planet and fighting obesity” attitudes."
So that is the reason for all your diatribe? Are you lumping all bikers in that generalization? The kids? The older folks? The group of kids that rides to school with a volunteer parent? The guy with his daughters in the trailer? That is quite a leap.
I will never defend a biker who thinks he is above the law, but it seems you are advocating breaking it yourself. If you want to start a web site with pics of bikers who violate the law, I think that's a great idea. I think we should put cars on it too. (Its far more dangerous when they pass on the right.) It shouldn't be bikers vs cars, it should be abiders vs violators, don't you think?
Posted on Wed, May 27 2009 at 06:29 PM
No, I am not lumping you all together. I mean only those people I am referrng to whose attitudes reflect those atributes I described.
Must liberals always pull the "prejudise" card when they lose an arguement? You know it doesn't work in every situation - like this one for instance.
Where do I advocate breaking the law. All I have done is quote the law. I think everyone should follow the law. Nobody gets a pass just because they think they are saving the planet.
I don't need to start a web site. I'll just use this one.
So far no one here has posted any pictures of cars violating the law.
When do cars pass bikes on the right in a single lane like bike do with cars so often?
Posted on Wed, May 27 2009 at 10:49 PM
You did lump us all together, first as a biker who is "elitist", and now I am a liberal because I defend the bike lanes!? In your world Republicans don't ride bikes? LOL! They do in mine. Next you will be generalizing skateboarders? They use the bike lane all the time too. Are they all liberal arrogant clueless tree huggers trying to save the planet too?
People parked in the bike lane like the pictures on this site get tickets all the time. The police even disciplined one of their own who parked a squad car in a bike lane. I will believe the opinions of Metro Legal, Councilmen, lawyers, judges and police over you, sorry. Take your logic before the judge if you want. Only he can decide if you 'won' the argument.
Posted on Thu, May 28 2009 at 11:22 AM
Again, when I refer to liberals, elitist, global warming alarmist, skateboarders, tree huggers or whatever I am referring to those people in those groups that I talking about and not those people in those groups that I am not talking about.-----------------------
It is logical for me to assume you are a liberal because you are exploiting the parking in the bike lane “crisis” to gain more power for bike riders and the prejudice “crisis” to gain more power by exploiting those you allege I am prejudiced against.------------------------
Here, I’ll say “those (fill in the blank of the people I am referring to) and only those (fill in the blank of the people I am referring to) that have the attributes of (fill in the blank of the attributes we are discussing).” There now you know who I am talking about when I refer to a group we are discussing and we won’t have to waste our discussing if I am racist or prejudiced. Happy?------------------------
I think if you took a poll you would see that most bike riders are liberals. I have had 12 years experience with bike advocates in Nashville and I can confirm that most are self described liberal. I don’t know any skateboarders who use bikes lanes. I do know that, had I not objected, the law regulating bike lanes would be for the exclusive use of bikes. And yes, I know a lot of skateboarders and most of them are liberals.--------------------
You can’t say for a fact that “people” like the people pictured get tickets for parking in the bike lane. You can’t say that the people in these pictures weren’t loading or unloading passengers or property. If I found out my car was pictured on your web site I would sue you for libel. If you took your picture to the DA and he issued a warrant I would say prove that I was not loading or unloading people or property.--------------------------
I hope the next time you have to call the police to help you they have to take a long time to find a parking space rather than block a bike lane that very few people use.------------------------------
Perhaps the BPAC needs to make an exception to the code to allow police to park in the bike lanes while in the performance of their duties. I can’t believe there isn’t a clause like than already. I’ll check and if it is not there I’ll suggest it to Toks.-----------------------
I suppose that the BPAC would oppose that exception for the police just like they tried to remove the clause allowing police on bikes from riding on sidewalks in the performance of their duties. I made sure that revision didn’t make it into the law either.---------------------
Why do bike riders on the BPAC who hate the police and only those riders on the BPAC who hate the police, hate the police?--------------